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Items covered:

  1. About asteroids hitting Earth.
  2. The swirling of water in a draining tub.
  3. Dispensing water at zero-g.
  4. Robert Goddard and World War II.
  5. Asymmetry of the Moon's orbit.
  6. Measuring distance from the Sun.
  7. Who owns the Moon?
  8. Acceleration of a rocket.
  9. Rebounding ping pong balls (re. #35)
  10. Rebounding ping pong balls and gravity-assist
  11. Why don't we feel the Sun's gravity pull?
  12. How hot are red, white and blue (etc.) stars?
  13. How does the solar wind move?
  14. The shape of the orbit of Mars
  15. What if the Earth's axis were tilted 90° to the ecliptic?


  16. Mars and Venus
  17. Where is the boundary between summer and winter?
  18. The Ozone Hole
  19. What keeps the Sun from blowing up?
  20. Those glorious Southern Skies!
  21. Should we fear big solar outbursts?
  22. Planetary line-up and the sunspot cycle
  23. What are comet tails made of?
  24. If light speed sets the limit, why fly into space?
  25. Does precession mis-align ancient monuments?
  26. Why does the Earth rotate? Why is it a sphere?
  27. What's so hard about reaching the Sun?


  28. Where does space begin?
  29. Gravity at the Earth's Center
  30. Radiation hazard in space (3 queries)
  31. "Danger, falling satellites"?
  32. The Lagrangian L3 point
  33. Distance to the Horizon on an Asteroid
  34. Overtaking Planets
  35. Falling Towards the Sun
  36. The Polar Bear
  37. Are the Sun's Rays Parallel?
  38. More thrust in reverse than going forward?
  39. The varying distance between Earth and Sun
  40. Mission to Mars
  41. Kepler's calculation
  42. The Appearance (Phase) of the Moon


  43. Stability of Lagrangian points
  44. Can an Asteroid Impact Change the Earth's Orbit?
  45. Can Gravity Increase with Depth?
  46. Lightspeed, Hyperspace and Wormholes
  47. Why do Rockets Spin?
  48. Around What does the Sun Revolve?
  49. Why are planets in nearly the same plane?
  50. The Shapes of Rockets and Spacecraft
  51. Space Debris
  52. Teaching Nuclear Fusion
  53. Contribution of different elements to Sunlight
  54. Jewish Calendar
  55. Spaceflight Without Escape Velocity?
  56. Who first proposed a round Earth?
  57. Does Precession change the Length of a Year?
  58. The Analemma
  59. Changes of the Polar Axis of Earth
  60. Van Allen Belt and Spaceflight
  61. Nearest Star Outside Our Galaxy
  62. (a) Why are Satellites Launched Eastward?
          What is a "Sun Synchronous" orbit?
     (b) Why are satellites launched from near the equator?
  63. How Tall Can People Get?
  64. Gunpowder and Rockets
  65. Precession
  66. Solar Sails
  67. (a) Distance to the Big Dipper
     (b) Big Dipper star names


  68. Was Moon landing a hoax?
  69. Clockwise or counter-clockwise?
  70. Isotopes in Center of Earth
  71. Density of the Sun's corona and the "Scale Height"
  72. Did Tesla extract free energy from thin air?
  73. What does "lapse rate" mean?
  74. Motion of the Sun through space
  75. Teaching about tides
  76. Distance to the Horizon
  77. Can geocentrist theory still be possible?
  78. Can Earth's rotation reverse, like its magnetic polarity?
  79. Why is the Earth round?
  80. The De Laval Nozzle
  81. Why 23.5 degrees?
  82. What is Gravitational Collapse?
  83. Can Earth capture a second moon?


  84. How far does the Earth's gravity extend?
  85. How far is the Moon?
  86. Twinkle, twinkle little star-- How I wonder, what you are.
  87. Teaching about seasons
  88. Space Launches by Cannon--A
  89. Space Launches by Cannon--B
  90. The Southern Pole of the Sky
  91. Do Astrologers use Wrong Positions for Planets?
  92. Why does the Moon have bigger craters?
  93. Why does Gravity Exist?
  94. Atmospheric "Thermals"--Triggered by Electric Forces?
  95. What would happen if Earth rotated faster?
  96. Where do gravity of Earth and Sun balance?
  97. The Ultimate Astronomy Tool
  98. High Temperature in Cold Outer Space


  99.   Refraction of sunlight and starlight by the atmosphere
  100.   Advice to a would-be astronomer
  101.   The effect of the Color of Light on the Output of Solar Cells
  102.   What is "radiation"?
  103.   Height of the Atmosphere
  104.   How does the upper atmosphere get so hot?
  105.   History of the use of De Laval's nozzle on rockets
  106.   Why don't Space Rockets use Wings?
  107. Distance of horizon on Mars
  108. Stopping the rotation of Earth?
  109. The equation of a parabola
  110. When does Jewish Sabbath start in the far north?
  111. Where is the center of the global landmass?
  112. What if our Sun was a much hotter star?
  113. Finding the north direction


  114. Why not use a heat shield going up?
  115. When and where can rainbows be seen?
  116. The unusual rotation of the planet Venus
  117. Why not use nuclear power for spaceflight?
  118. "Doesn't heat rise?"
  119. Have any changes been observed on the Moon?
  120. Why isn't our atmosphere flung off by the Earth's rotation?
  121. Can kinetic energy be reconverted to work?
  122. Does any location get the same number of sunshine hours per year?
  123. Speed of toy car rolling off an inclined ramp
  124. Acceleration due to gravity


  125. Re-entry from Space
  126. Balancing a Bicycle
  127. Is Absolute Zero reached on the Moon?
  128. Why isn't Longitude measured from 0° to 360°? "Constellation" or "Asterism"?
  129. "Position of the Stars when I was Born"
  130. Rotation of the Earth's Core"
  131. How hot is the Sun?
  132. How much weaker is gravity higher up?
  133. Eclipse of Venus?
  134. The Big Bang


  135. Thanks for the "Math Refresher" in Spanish
  136. The Pressure of Sunlight
  137. How is the instant the seasons change determined?
  138. Operation of Ion Rockets
  139. Physical Librations of the Moon
  140. The De-Laval Nozzle
  141. Why does the space shuttle rotate at take-off?
  142. Cold Fusion
  143. What if a Neutron Star hit the Sun?
    Why did the Moon appear Red?
  144. Centrifuge for Whirling Astronauts
  145. What Holds Galaxies Together?
  146. View of Earth and Moon from Mars
  147. Appearance of the Moon (1)
  148. Appearance of the Moon (2): Does it "roll around"?
  149. Altitude of the tail of the Big Dipper
  150. Sudden decompression, 5 miles up


  151. Do Negative Ions make you Feel Good?
  152. Shape of the Earth's Orbit
  153. Questions about the Solar Corona:
  154.                    (1) Why don't its particles separate by weight?
                       (2) What accelerates the solar wind?
  155. Why does the rising Sun look so big?
  156. Drawing a Perpendicular Line in Rectangular Coordinates
  157. Unequal Seasons
  158. Is the Big Dipper visible from Viet Nam?
  159. Holes in a Solar Sail
  160. Consequences of no more solar X-rays
  161. Science Fair Project on the Size of the Earth
  162. Superposition of Waves
  163. The Sun and Seasons
  164. If the Earth's Rotation would   S t o p...     (1)
  165. If the Earth's Rotation would   C h a n g e...     (2)
  166. What if the Earth stopped in its orbit?
  167. Fast Trip to Mars     (1)
  168. Fast Trip to Mars     (2)


  169. Spacecraft Attitude
  170. What makes the Earth rotate?
  171. Energy from the Earth's Rotation?
  172. How were planets created?
  173. Does Precession of the Equinoxes shift our Seasons?
  174. "Zenial Days" on Hawaii
  175. Sun's Temperature and Energy Density of Sunlight
  176. Teaching about energy in 8th grade
  177. About the jetstream
  178. What would a breach in a space station do?
  179. Gravity at the Earth's center
  180. Freak waves on the ocean
  181. Citation on "Bad Greenhouse" web page
  182. How can radio waves carry sound?
  183. Do Cosmic Rays produce lightning?
  184. Star positions shifted by the atmosphere
  185. The equation of time
  186. Launch window of the Space Shuttle


  187. No "Man in the Moon" from Australia?
  188. Picturing the Sun from a different distance
  189. What makes the sun shine so brightly?
  190. Re-entry from orbit
  191. Effects of weightlessness on one's body
  192. Blimps on Mars
  193. Planet Mars "huge" in the sky, in August 2005?
  194. Astronomy and telescopes for ones' own children
  195. Does the solar wind have escape velocity
  196. Astronomy for cliff-dwellers of New York City
  197. Portable star finder
  198. What if the Moon was closer? (2 questions)
  199. Why doesn't the Moon have an atmosphere?
  200. Telling a 3-year old about the atmosphere (2 questions)
  201. Three-color vision


  202. Superconductors work, universe expands--with no energy input. Why?
  203. Shuttle orbit and Earth rotation
  204. Worrying about Wormholes and Black Holes
  205. What should I study?
  206. The greenhouse effect
  207. Separation between lines of latitude and longitude
  208. Motion of air: hot to cold, or high pressure to low?
  209. Removing "Killer Asteroids"
  210. Strange light seen from Hawaii
  211. Is the Sun attached to another star?
  212. What if the Sun turned into a black hole?
  213. Do absorption lines have a Doppler shift?
  214. What are "Electromagnetic Waves"?
  215. Why are the two daily tides unequal?
  216. Why air gets cold higher up--a wrong explanation


  217. Any limits to Newton's 2nd Law
  218. Gravity at the Earth's center
  219. Does the Earth follow a "squiggly" orbit?
  220. Third grader asks: how far to zero gravity?
  221. "How does inertia affect a rolling ball"?
  222. What determines the quality of a telescope?
  223. Why design maps around curved lines?
  224. "Drag" by the Sun on the Earth's motion
  225. Does precession affect the time of summer? (2 questions)
  226. Newton's law or Bernoulli's?
  227. Does the universe have an axis?
  228. Frictional electricity
  229. Syllabus for catching up on physics
  230. Parabolic reflector
  231. At what distance does Earth start looking spherical?
  232. Is the Sun on fire?
  233. Confusion about the "Big Bang"
  234. How did Tycho calibrate his instruments?


  235. Gases that fill balloons
  236. Asian tradition on the start of winter
  237. Why our year starts at January 1
  238. Sticking a hand out of a window...
  239. One year of continuous sunlight?
  240. Shielding out radio waves
  241. The way gravity changes with depth
  242. The Sun's Axis
  243. "Gravity Particles"?
  244. A "short stay on Mars"
  245. Weight and mass
  246. "The Moon Hoax"
  247. Shuttle re-entry from space
  248. Energy levels: plus or minus?
  249. How can such small targets be accurately hit so far away?
  250. A teacher asks about compiling lesson plans
  251. Why the Moon has its phases
  252. How can a spacecraft self-rotate?
  253. Stability during a rocket launch
  254. Boiling point of water in space


  255. Konstantin Tsiolkovsky
  256. The Color Indigo
  257. Electromagnetic Waves and Electromagnetic Induction
  258. Why do orbits curve?
  259. The "Sundial Bridge" in Redding
  260. (a) Temperature in space
      (b) Exposure to the space environment: Freeze or burn?
  261. Remote sensing of Thunderstorms
  262. What keeps Electrons away from the Atomic Nucleus?
  263. The Stars on the Winter Solstice of 2012
  264. Mars Sunset
  265. Gravity at the Center of Earth
  266. The Big Bang
  267. "How Often are Stars Born?"
  268. The Path of Lightning
  269. Launching a Rocket from an Airplane
  270. The Equation of Continuity
  271. The Four Corners Monument
  272. Which among the brightest stars is closest to N Pole?
  273. Gravity Assist
  274. Is the Centrifugal Force "Real"?
  275. How do we know Earth is bigger than the Moon?
  276. Sound Waves on the Sun?
  277. What if we had to give up use of Satellites?
  278. Rotation of Venus
  279. "Proper Motion" of Stars
  280. Doppler Shift from the Big Bang
  281. Science Fiction scenario for a Flight to Mars
  282. Motion of the Moon


  283. "Iridium" flares
  284. Discovering Planets outside the Solar System
  285. Landing speed of airplane
  286. The Hubble Constant
  287. Are Summer Nights Darker?
  288. "Space Elevator"
  289. Black Holes
  1. Don't use Diesel fuel in a gasoline car!
  2. How bright is our Sun when seen from space?
  3. What is a "field"?
  4. Outer limits of the Solar System
  5. Gravitational Energy
  6. Stresses on a Railroad Bridge
  7. The constellation of Cassiopeia
  8. Tracking of radioactivity carried by winds
  9. Why can't the space shuttle reenter "slowly"?
  10. "The Standard Model of the Universe"
  11. About the Maya Calendar
  12. Are light sabers possible?
  13. Can the heat of sunshine make the Earth expand?

  14. About Mountains
  15. "Will the World end in 2012?" (a,b)
  16. Advice to graduating High School Student
  17. Could a (heat resistant!) ship float on the Sun?
  18. Reducing the fuel weight of the Space Shuttle?
  19. How do Rockets Land?
  20. The Earth's Spin reduced by Global Warming
  21. Circumnavigation of the Sun
  22. Are nuclear forces merely gravity at very close distance?
  23. Changing the Earth's Rotation
  24. Why are planetary orbits eccentric?
  25. Forces on Comet-dwellers
  26. Nuclear reactors and bombs
  27. Why doesn't magnetism affect electro-magnetic waves?
  28. Is humanity changing the climate, or is it the Sun and the Earth's magnetism?
  29. Advice to home-schooling parent
  30. Science of Clothing
  31. Calculating a Collision
  32. The Coriolis force and more
  33. Why isn't the solar system stratified by density?

  34. Tapping Atmospheric Electricity
  35. Global Disaster in 2012?
  36. What's the difference between speed and velocity?
  37. Effect of Gravity on Electromagnetic Waves
  38. Why is North the reference, not South?
  39. The lowest 700 km of our Atmosphere
  40. Doomsday 2012?
  41. Where does a Flying Bird get its Support?
  42. Why does Sun seem to move?
  43. Why don't waves disturb each other?
  44. Does the Moon's motion Change?
  45. Big Dipper and Weather
  46. What IS the Ecliptic?
  47. Precession, Greenhouse and more...
  48. Latest Sunrise, Earliest Sunset
  49. Falling off the Earth's Bottom?
  50. Rolling down a slopea>
  51. Pelton Wheel Efficiency
  52. Energy loss rate of our Sun
  53. The Sun's distance
  54. Why does sunlight have a continuous spectrum?

  55. Harry Paul Sprain's perpetual Motion Device
  56. Can the plasma that fills space help spaceflight?
  57. Spiral arms of our galaxy
  58. What powers a glider?
  59. UFOs
  60. Maximum speed for propeller-driven airplane?
  61. The speed at which gravity spreads
  62. Layers of the Earth
  63. Why doesn't the sky fall on us?
  64. Imagine a non-rotating Earth
  65. Flying east with a 1° error
  66. US Flag on the Moon
  67. Rope stretched across a long lake...
  68. About studying electronics in the USA
  69. Publish Stargazers as a book?
  70. Charging of Earth by lightning:   +   or   –  ?
  71. If no stars were seen--could Earth's orbital motion be discovered?
  72. Local Solar Time in Iceland
  73. Is orbital motion same as free fall?
  74. Build a straight tower in warped space?

  75. The 2011-2 sunspot maximum
  76. Is Earth adding mass?
  77. Shape of a "bottle rocket"
  78. Fantasy spaceflight vs. reality
  79. Telling a 7-year old about stars "dying"
  80. (1) Why is lightning jagged?     (2) What did Tesla do?
  81. How can the north wall of my house be in sunlight?
  82. Heating the inside of Earth
  83. Dawning of the Age of Aquarius
  84. Why is hydrogen the fuel of choice?
  85. Gamma ray bursts
  86. Counter-clockwise swirling motion in the atmosphere
  87. Leap years on the Jewish calendar
  88. Earth axis tilt and climate (1)
  89. Earth axis tilt and climate (2)
  90. Does the Sun move?
  91. Can the Sun interfere with the visibility of the Big Dipper?
  92. Why can't we feel the Earth's rotation?
  93. Is our galaxy held together by a central black hole?
  94. Why don't gas planets just evaporate?
  95. Source of the Sun's energy
  96. Point of gravity equilibrium
  97. Solar system motion through the Galaxy
  98. Spaceflight by waiting for the Earth to turn?
  99. Does Earth rotation affect size of creatures?
  100. The year 2012
  101. Are our galactic arms winding up or opening up?
  102. Advice to a home-schooling mother
  103. Are all stars we see suns?
  104. Newton's 3rd law
  396A Posssibility of Asteroid Hitting Earth (1)
  396B Posssibility of Asteroid Hitting Earth (2)
  1. Author's IQ
  2. Global Warming caused by Sun getting nearer?
  3. The year 2012
  4. Empty space behind North Star?
  5. The year 2012 and the 26,000 year cycle
  6. "Quarter Squares"
  7. Do Rockets need "something to push against"?
  8. Sunrise-Sunset asymmetry
  9. Re-entry from orbit
  10. Earth Axis and Gravity
  11. The year 2012
  12. Choosing an Aerospace Career
  13. Advice for "new" physics teacher
  14. Paradox of Time Travel
  15. Is 7th grade Earth science boring?
  16. Air Resistance
  17. Experimenting with Microwave Oven
  18. Is the Sun losing mass?
  19. Sun's position at noon, south of equator
  20. Fred Hoyle's theory of the Sun's Corona
  21. Why don't Protons and Electrons combine?
  22. Days in a Year
  23. Position of the Moon in the sky

  24. Earth crossing Galactic Equator?
  25. Is the geocentric theory ruled out?
  26. Does the Southern Sky have a Pole Star?
  27. What is the fate of starlight energy?
  28. Double-slit diffraction of particles
  29. Does the Sun overhead reduce effective weight?
  30. Evidence for Global Warming ?
  31. Distances to the Equator
  32. Weight on the Equator and at the Pole
  33. Why doesn't gravity overcome buoyancy?
  34. The Prime Meridian
  35. Is L2 in the Earth's Shadow?
  36. In what direction is Israel from NY?
  37. Is the World Overpopulated?
    Magnetic Energy
  38. Magnetic Carnot Cycle
  39. Defining the Equator

  40. Second Moon for Earth?
  41. The year 2012 and a distant companion of our Sun
  42. Distance between two points on a sphere
  43. Getting sucked I by Gravity
  44. The work of Nikola Tesla
  45. Firing a cannon straight up
  46. Does one see half the sky--or more, or less?
  47. Why are nights dark?
  48. The origin of the Solar System
  49. Flying to other planets
  50. The heat of the Sun's corona
  51. Crossing our galaxy's equator
  52. Newton's 3rd law--in statics and dynamics
  53. Barycenter of Earth-Moon system
  54. What if Earth rotated in only 10 hours>




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28.   Where does space begin?

I have a question about how far up do you have to go to get out of the earth's atmosphere to be in space. I would like this answer in the form of miles. I would gratly appreciate any information on this.

Thank you.

Reply

The ocean has a well-defined top surface, where water ends and the atmosphere begins. The atmosphere doesn't: it gets more and more rarefied, and where space begins is open to interpretation.

Near the ground the atmospheric density drops to 1/2 every 5 kilometers (8 kilometers = 5 miles, very nearly), so at 10 km where jets fly, density is down to 1/4. This continues more or less up to 100 km (the halving distance varies a bit, with temperature), where collisions between molecules become relatively rare. Higher up the oxygen and nitrogen each decrease at its own rate.

The space shuttle flies at 300-400 kilometers, but even there enough air remains to seriously limit orbital lifetime. Also, enough of that air is ionized--electrons ripped off molecules by the Sun's extreme ultra violet, leaving behind positive "ions"--to reflect radio signals. Satellites orbit at 600-1000 km and up, and that, too, is where the first signs of the radiation belt can be observed, particularly off the Atlantic coast of Brazil, where the magnetic field is relatively weak.

Somewhere between here and there, you enter "space. "

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29.   Gravity at the Earth's Center

(Two questions with the same answer)

(1) My students had a couple of questions that I thought were interesting.
                I told them I'd ask ya'll.
  • What would you weigh is you were at the exact center of the earth?
    What would you weigh is you were 3 meters from the center of the earth?
Please include supporting evidence for your answers

(2)
  • I am confused about Newton's discussion of the force on a particle within a sphere in the Principia. In one place, he says that the force would be zero, since the attraction of all the particles in the sphere would cancel each other out.

    Just a little further on, he says that the force would be directly proportional to the particle's distance from the center of the sphere.
Can you clarify these two seemingly conflicting statements?

Thank you for any light that you can shed.

Reply

    Dear Teacher (and this also answers the student of Newton):

    Yours is an old question, first tackled by Newton, as the "Hollow Earth Paradox." If the Earth where a hollow sphere (inner and outer surfaces spherical) and someone dug a hole that reached the hollow interior, and then stepped into it--what would that person experience?

    Newton's answer--there would be no gravity inside the hollow. Any object thrown into it--say, a stone--would continue in a straight line with constant velocity (ignoring air resistance).

    Newton's argument was roughly as follows. Take an object at a point in space anywhere in the cavity and draw from it a double cone (like a teepee, extending to both sides). Each side of it will cut part of the sphere, and the gravity of the two parts will tend to pull the object in opposite directions (make a drawing and you will see).

    Newton showed that the pulls of both part cancel each other: one part may be closer, but then it will also be smaller. Since all directions can be covered by a collection of such cones, the total force is zero. Today we get this result much more quickly by the theory of the potential, but that takes three-dimensional calculus, which Newton did not have.

    Now: Imagine you are somehow in the middle of the solid Earth--by some magic, not crushed by the rocks, suffocated or incinerated. In your mind you can divide all matter on earth into two parts: a smaller sphere containing everything that is CLOSER than you to the Earth's center, and a hollow sphere containing everything that is MORE DISTANT.

    By Newton, the hollow sphere exerts no pull, while the interior sphere, like the Earth, pulls as if all its mass were concentrated in the middle (that's another thing easily shown from potential theory). If you are halfway to the center, and the density everywhere is the same (actually, matter gets compressed towards the middle) then only 1/8 of the Earth mass is pulling you, but at half the distance, the pull is 4 times stronger ("inverse squares law"), so the final result is 1/2 of the gravity on the surface. At 1/N times the radius, the pull of gravity is just 1/N the pull at the surface.

    As you get deeper and deeper, the inside sphere gets smaller and its pull is weaker, so gravity too weakens. At the center, it is zero. At 3 meters from the center, it is the pull of a 3-meter sphere of rock, experienced on its surface--the pull of a tiny asteroid.

    Please note--that is just the pull of gravity on YOU. The rocks above you are also all pulled down, all the way to the surface of the Earth, and their weight is likely to crush you before you get very far. There may perhaps exist a cave a mile deep, but if so, none is much deeper, because there is too much weight piled on top.

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30(a)   Radiation hazard in space--1

    I am working at the University of Arkansas School of Architecture along with members of the Habitability team at NASA for the manned Mars mission. It has been explained to me that radiation will be a big issue in the design of a Mars habitat. I was wondering how feasible it would be to use nuclear power to produce a eletromagnetic field around the habitat to reduce or deflect the radiation. Is it possible to create a magnetic field strong enough to provide radiation protection? And if so, how much energy would it require?

Reply

Dear Jim     I have not calculated the field needed, but it is probably very strong, too expensive to set up, too much mass and energy are needed, and a strong magnetic field would affect instruments.

    The cheap and simple way is to build a shelter--especially since the dangerous events are the ones of solar outbursts, which are rare and last a day at most. You can calculate the shielding, but 20-50 cm rock should do a pretty good job (remember gravity is weaker, too, they will weigh less than on Earth).

    Have you read Ben Bova's "Mars"? It's fanciful science fiction, but his physics seems OK. The Mars astronauts are hit by a solar outburst halfway to Mars and wait it out, huddled in a special shielded area of their spaceship.

30(b)   Radiation hazard in space--2

    I was browsing through some message boards and came across a very interesting discussion about the favorite 'We Never Landed On the Moon' conspiracy theories. A major player in this discussion is of course the plausibility of astronauts, film, and equipment surviving the radiation of the inner and outer Van Allen belts during the Apollo series.

    Is it possible for humans to survive a trip through these belts with the shielding that was available on the Apollos?

    What are the lethal exposure periods for humans in the areas of the strongest radiation? And does the moon itself provide some shielding from cosmic and other solar radiations?

Reply

Dear Howard

    I do not know exactly how much radiation a person would suffer going (twice, in and out) through the radiation belt, but it is tolerable. A dangerous dose is 200 rad and up, and I once calculated that going through the inner belt, the solar cells of a satellite shielded by 1 mm of glass get about 25 rad. People can be shielded much better-- even huddling together has some value. About 500 rad is lethal, and the outer belt particles are less penetrating.

    Cosmic radiation is relatively weak, and the moon provides little shielding.

    The REAL danger is from eruptions on the Sun, which can flood interplanetary space with protons and ions that are quite energetic and penetrating. I believe Ben Bova had such an event in his book named (I think) "Mars", telling how astronauts on the way to Mars are hit by such an eruption and hide in a sheltered area aboard the spacecraft. This sort of risk is reduced around the minimum of the sunspot cycle, but it is never absent. In Earth orbit (e.g. on the space station) the Earth's magnetic field deflects such particles, at least from regions near the equator, where the space station is to be located.

30(c)   Radiation hazard in space--3

(Excerpt from question)

    The other night, I was watching a program about the Apollo missions and how they might be a hoax staged by NASA. Many interesting points were raised and by apparently learned men. The point concerning me most was a claim that the craft used to travel to the moon, and the LEM that took them to its surface, would not have provided enough protection from the high levels of radiation in the VanAllen Belt and cosmic radiation traveling through the solar system. The man postulated it would take roughly three feet of lead to shield against such radiation. Can you tell me what material protection the crew members of the Apollo missions had or what measures were taken to protect them?

Excerpt from reply

Dear John

    That program on TV created a flurry of inquiries--I think yours is 5th. ... The cosmic radiation in space might indeed take 3 feet of lead to reduce it significantly--which is about as much protection as the atmosphere gives us.
(By the way, a widespread misconception of the public is that lead makes a better shield than other materials. It does for x-rays, which is why dentists and doctors use lead aprons, etc. However, for high- energy particles of space, all substances are more or less equivalent, for the same amount of grams per square cm.)
Keep in mind, though , cosmic radiation is a very weak source--it carries about as much energy as starlight. So the number of rads one gets from it is not high.

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31.   "Danger, falling satellites"?

Hi

I am a writer, so my knowledge is always far behind the "truths" I write. But I was reading your article "Orbits", on the web, while researching a story I am writing, and liked the voice of your writing. So I thought I might ask you some questions. I hope you have the time.

I have searched extensively (without much luck) for information on the issues of reentry. I understand a layman's idea of how you get something into orbit and get it to stay there. I have also read about the demise of the Compton Observatory. Yet when I read about reentry, the issues of angle and speed are not clear.

If for instance a craft were out there going at 17500 mph and I just slowed it down to 60 mph--what would happen? Or if I just stopped it? Would it come crashing down like a lump and burn up along the way. Why does the shuttle enter the atmosphere at such speed and not just pop in with a large parachute? Perhaps it could use rockets to slow the gravity pull while it descends to an altitude where a parachute or simple gliding could be initiated without all that heat.

My problem in my story is that I need for a smallish satellite or vehicle (whatever) to be able to be descending into the atmosphere from orbit (in or out of control), fairly slowly (>400mph or thereabouts-- preferably, much less) between 60000 feet and the ground. Do I have a prayer - other than a Hollywood solution?

Reply

Re-entry from space is discussed in the middle of "Spaceflight" at http://www.phy6.org/stargaze/Spaccrft.htm

You wrote:

"If for instance a craft were out there going at 17500 mph and I just slowed it down to 60 mph--what would happen? Or if I just stopped it?"

You can't do so, no more than you can with your car: if it is going at 60 mph you cannot just slow it down to 10 mph, or to a stop, unless you apply the brakes. If you do that, the brake pads rub against the drums or disks and convert the energy of the car into heat.

The speed of an orbiting object is enormous, and it too must be dissipated as heat: re-entering at a shallow angle lengthens the time spent in re-entry, so the heat is generated more gradually and can be radiated away without the spacecraft getting too hot. A small satellite can survive it, if suitably protected or if lucky enough: in the 1960s, USAF airplanes retrieved film packages from spy satellites, ejected in well-protected (but relatively small) capsules. When such satellites reach the denser atmosphere, they slow down--perhaps to 150 mph or less. The film capsules would then deploy a parachute, and as they floated down, a twin-boom transport airplane, with rear door open, would trail a line with a hook, snag them and pull them in. If they were to hit the ground (in principle--actually, rerieval was usually above water) they would of course get banged up somewhat, but their instruments etc. could perhaps survive.

Further message (shortened)

My story (a screenplay) which is more a people story than a James Bond, envolves a collision between a malfunctioning runaway satellite and a Boeing 767.

Reply (shortened)

A film capsule of (say) 10 or 20 kg would be less likely to demolish a 747 in full flight. Still, I would not like to be aboard that plane! It is not the 150 mph (or whatever) of the capsule, but the 600 mph of the airplane, which makes the collision so dangerous. If it hit the main body of the airplane, or a wing, results could be grim. If it hit a jet engine, it would probably demolish it. The satellite itself or the capsule would have a parachute deploy to slow it to much less than 150 mph.

The nearest thing I can recall is an airliner flying over Damascus, Syria, during one of the tense periods between Syria and Israel. The Syrians fired a missile at it, and by some miracle it stuck in a wing and did not explode. The airplane landed safely, but it was a close call.


32.   The Lagrangian L3 point

Hello

I went through the site at: http://www.phy6.org/Education/wlagran.html and was just wondering if there is any information on L3? As I read the article I may have missed its mention. If not could you tell me if there is any information you could point me towards?

Thanks Very Kindly

Reply

Dear Bill

The Lagrangian point L3 is not mentioned because it is only of theoretical interest and has no practical application. If only Earth and Sun existed, L3 would be on the Earth-Sun line, but on the opposite side of the Sun. At that distance, a satellite at exactly 1 AU (Astronomical Unit = Sun-Earth distance) would experience a bit more gravity than the Earth, being pulled not just by the Sun but also by the Earth. Its orbital period would therefore be a tiny bit less than a year. L3 is at a slightly larger distance, where the greater distance from the Sun reduces the Sun's pull just enough to make the satellite's orbital period exactly one year, so that it would keep a fixed position relative to the Earth.

Practically, the feeble pull of the Earth at this distance is negligible compared to other effects, such as the attraction of Jupiter. Besides, it would be hard to communicate to such a spacecraft, since it would be permanently behind the Sun!

Look also at "From Stargazers to Starships", home page at http://www.phy6.org/stargaze/Sintro.htm. Sections 34 there calculate the Lagrangian points.

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33.   Distance to the Horizon on an Asteroid

Hi,

The reason I stumbled across your page is that I work on astronomical, science fiction and fantasy art and illustration and was looking for a formula that would allow me to calculate the distance to the horizon of any body once one knows the radius of that body. I've been working up a piece illustrating a scene taking place on Ceres and it would be nice to have the horizon more or less where it ought to be.

Any suggestions where I might find such a tool?

Reply

For the distance to the horizon, look up the formula in "From Stargazers to Starships", sect. 8a (where it is derived). It depends on your elevation, of course. All you need is replace the radius R of Earth by that of Ceres, assumed to be spherical.

There is a great story by Arthur Clarke, "Hide and Seek," in which a man in a spacesuit successfully evades a spaceship on a moon of Mars, where the horizon is quite close. Have you read it?
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34.   Overtaking Planets


Hi - I am looking for the way of calculating orbits of two planets passing each other.

For example:
    Planet A - orbits every 30 years Planet B - orbits every 12 years

The two passed each other in 1982. What would be the calculation for determining when the two will pass each other again, in layman terms?

Trying to answer this for a grade school student - trying to assist.

Reply

Hi, Mike

Your example does not sound too practical--it's like asking when does Jupiter overtake Neptune, even at the closest approach they are still very far apart. So let me reformulate

    Earth orbits the Sun in 1 year, the frequency is 1 rev/year. Mars orbits the Sun in 1.8822 years, same direction
            Its frequency is 1/1.8822 = 0.5313 rev/year

At some time (say, today) Earth passes closest to Mars. When will it happen again?

Draw the two orbits, one inside the other. Then assume you put the whole set-up on a turntable, rotating with a frequency –1, that is that is, 1 revolution per year but in the opposite sense. Forces in the rotating frame would be quite different, but we ignore that--the motions alone are what counts here.

Frequencies add up, rotation periods don't. The orbital frequency of Earth in the rotating frame is 1 – 1 = 0 revolutions/year, that is, it does not move. That of Mars is 0.5313 – 1 = –0.4687 rev per hear, in the opposite direction, which make sense--the Earth moves faster, Mars viewed from it moves backwards. Its period T' will be, in the frame where the Earth sits still

T' = 1/0.468 = 2.133 years.


That's you answer. You can use 12 and 30 years, if you wish, the same way.

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35.   Falling Towards the Sun

In doing research on a recently retired Pelton Wheel, I found your article on the Pelton Wheel and its implications for NASA's Solar Probe. Not being a physicist, I want to verify that I'm interpreting one section of the article correctly:

"...the most economical way of achieving that mission...may well be sending the spacecraft towards Jupiter....It would then make a tight loop around the planet, overtaking it in such a way that practically all its orbital velocity around the Sun is lost, and then fall toward the Sun. "

"Falling toward the sun"...I'm having difficulty visualizing this. Is it similar to the slingshot effect used to get Apollo 13 home? Would that be a grossly incorrect description? If so, could you offer a short, simple lay person description? I'm writing for a power industry internal newsletter and cannot get overly technical.

Reply

Dear Leslie

"A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. " I would guess that you reached my Pelton wheel site using a search engine, and did not note it was unit #35a--the last unit, in fact--of a big educational site about spaceflight, astronomy and physics. You can reach the home page from the "back to index" button on the bottom, and after you do that, go to the preceding unit #35 where gravity-assist orbital maneuvers are discussed. Even though the spacecraft and moving planet (or moving moon) never touch, the result is similar to an elastic collision. Just as Sammy Sosa's home runs are a combined product of the speed imparted by the pitcher and that of the bat, so it was for Voyager 2 and Jupiter, for instance.

It works both ways: head-on collisions gain energy, overtaking ones give it up. Usually in space we want an extra boost, but in a turbine we want the water to lose as much as possible, because by the conservation of energy, what is lost from the water jet is gained by the water wheel. To hit the Sun with a spacecraft, it's not enough to escape the Earth's gravity: do that and you are still circling the Sun, like the Earth, with the same velocity, 30 km/sec. To give up as much is just as hard as gaining an equal amount--which is more than what is needed to escape the solar system altogether.

I am not sure change of velocity was a consideration with Apollo 13, as much as hitting the Earth edge on, so that the spacecraft would be braked by the high atmosphere. Hit any lower and it would hit the Earth (and burn up before doing so), hit any higher and you miss the Earth, go out to space, and long before you are back for another try you have run out of oxygen.
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36.   The Polar Bear



Could you please assist me with an estimation of the energy absorbed from the sun at the arctic (polar) regions? I would also like to know, if possible, the amount of energy (in Joules or calories) that a polar bear needs for a day. Thanks in anticipation.

Reply

The polar bear is unaware
Of cold that cuts me through
Why not? He has a coat of fur!
I wish I had one too!
                        Hilaire Belloc

Your request is one of the strangest I have ever received--do my correspondents feel that NASA knows everything? What is this information intended for?

About the polar bear: I will make a wild guess, 60,000 calories/day. But I really do not know. However a book exists which probably contains the answer, "The Fats of Life" by Caroline Pond. I saw its review in the "New Scientist" supplement of 6 May 1999, the review talks about the bear's metabolism but does not count calories.

The amount of sunlight at the pole depends on season. At the pole, in midwinter it is of course zero, in midsummer (clear sky) I would guess about 0.3-0.4 Kw/sec sq. meter, of which I suspect most is reflected by the ice.
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37.   Are the Sun's Rays Parallel?

David--thanks for your article. Can you tell me: Are the suns rays parallel ?

Reply

Dear Mary

What a question! Some are, most are not--but the answer depends on what you plan to do with the information.

The Sun covers about half a degree of the sky. So rays that come from opposite edges of the Sun have directions which differ by half a degree and are not parallel.

Rays which reach your left and right eye from a distant star, on the other hand, are very close to parallel--they may meet somewhere at the star, at the same point (and then they converge) or separated points (and then they probably diverge), but the eye and even the the telescope cannot resolve such details.

Rays from the same point on the Sun are pretty much like those from a star. But again, "same point" is hard to pin down--even sunspots may be thousands of kilometers wide.

Response

Thanks yet again. The question echoed what I remember being taught at school. Dont ask in which discipline. I can remember only the statement.

The reason I needed confirmation or refutation is simple. My hubbie has been observing the shadow cast by the sun on our south facing balcony railing at a specific time of day. One of his statements showed that he felt the sun's rays radiate ! I disagreed both with his conclusions and his statement.

You're a star for answering so clearly and quickly and leaving both of us room to be right. Is psychology your second area of specialization ?

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38.   More thrust in reverse than going forward?

(shortened) Sir,

I was struck by the visual similarity between a Pelton bucket and the split "clamshell" type of thrust reverser on jet aircraft. By an impulse analysis I estimate that the rearward thrust is about 157% of the forward. Is this about right?

REPLY

Dear Fred

I did not understand all you wrote, but please remember the zeroth law of thermodynamics, "there ain't such a thing as a free lunch. "

I don't believe a clamshell thrust reverser can generate more thrust forwards than backwards! There is a fine question of energy, which goes as the square of the velocity--but thrust is momentum transferred, and shooting a mass m with velocity v forward or backwards gives momentum + mv or - mv. In a Pelton wheel, the buckets move relative to the jet, but in a jet-engine clamshell they don't--so they can deflect, but not add any energy.

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39.   The varying distance between Earth and Sun

Hi

Sorry to be taking up your time, you are without a doubt very busy with answering many questions, but I am a 7th grader in View Ridge doing a report on "distance from the earth to the sun at 1 day from all 12 months." After searching for 3 hours I could not find this data and I thought maybe you could direct me on how and where to find this data or maybe you could send the data to me if it is easily accessible to you. Well thanks for your time and reading this message.

Reply

Hi, Ben

I am not at all sure what your teacher is asking, or why--or what you are supposed to learn from it all. The mean distance of Earth from the Sun is the astronomical unit (AU), equal according to my handbook to 149,599,000 kilometers.

From the nautical almanac; the Sun's distance on day N of the year in AU is
R = 1.00014 - 0.01671 cos g - 0.000 14 cos 2g
where in degrees g = 357.528 + 0.9856003 N

A formula exists for finding N based on the way astronomers count days, but I suspect counting from January 1 is OK, because then R is smallest around January 3, which is indeed well known. Being in 7th grade, do you know what a cosine is? If not, look up in the mathematical section of "Stargazers".

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40.   Mission to Mars

I am a professor in a large university and teach interdisciplinary general education courses. After reading this month's Scientific American [March 2000], I have been thinking about alternative scenarios for Mars missions.

The question is:

Suppose the total mass of the mission payload is Mp, and the total mass of the launch vehicle plus propellant is Mt. How does Mt scale with respect to Mp? If
Mt = K(Mp)a
what is the exponent a? It doesn't seem obvious that it should be 1.

REPLY

Dear Richardt I suspect that a=1 after all. If you want to send twice the payload, you need a rocket twice as large. There exist no economies of scale.

There does exist a certain flexibility in K, however. You do have to escape the Earth's gravity, at least to a circular parking orbit, and this sets a lower limit to K--it depends on your fuel, and the staging of the rocket, but it is going to be around 20 or more, usually more.

To fly from there to Mars, all sorts of tricks can be employed--ion engines, solar sails, etc.--and the duration of the trip is also a variable. Finally, the spaceship is to stop at Mars, not fly past it, and that requires either extra thrust or some delicate aerobraking. I think the article goes into all this, but the bottom line is--it isn't easy, and would take both ingenuity and luck to be pulled off successfully.

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41.   Kepler's calculation

    I've been searching for a book that would show me how to re-enact what Kepler did, with Brahe's data. That is, I want to use my 4 inch telescope and my accurate clock to record data that I can use to show that the data fits an ellipse. Where can I find instructions on how to collect the data and where can I find the equations Kepler used to show that the data fit?

    I found your web page course "From Stargazers to Starships" and thought you might know what I am looking for specifically.

Thank you for any suggestions.

Dan

REPLY

Dear Dan

    Tycho Brahe had no telescope, you know, but he built some very accurate quadrants--instruments resembling giant protractors, with sights to line up with stars. With these he tracked the positions of stars very accurately, taking into account factors such as refraction of light in the atmosphere. Kepler's laws were essentially based on the observations of Mars alone. A 4-inch telescope can be aimed much more accurately (the eye has a resolution around a minute of arc, at most), but this does not help much in precise tracking, unless you can determine with equal precision the direction in which it is pointing. That probably needs a strong foundation and accurate and strong mounting.

    That, however, need not be not your problem. You can always "fake your data" and take positions of Mars from the ephemeris table of the astronomical (or nautical?) almanac. Amateur astronomers in your area will have it, also university libraries--you might even find it on the web, I have not looked.

The question is, however, what then? To check the position of Mars in the sky, you need track both Earth and Mars. I don't know if motion of the Earth in a circle around the Sun (the idea of Copernicus) is good enough, but you can try it for a start. In fact, try the same for Mars, too, using the proper orbital period for each: you will get retrograde motion, though positions will not agree exactly.

    To check the uneven motion of Mars is harder. You must draw its ellipse (not accurately--only the calculation needs to be accurate) and mark on it a large number of points, say 36. Using the equation of the ellipse (and you will also need the eccentricity of that ellipse-something Kepler had to find out the hard way), calculate for each point its distance from the Sun (a computer will help). Also calculate the area covered by each 10-degree pie slice, approximating each slice by a triangle, and then from the law of areas you get the time needed to cover that angle, in some arbitrary units. Those units can be found by noting that all the times must add up to one orbital period. Of course, you must also know in which direction apogee is, the greatest distance from the Sun.

    If you now mark 72 positions of the Earth on its orbital circle over 2 years (about one Mars year), each will have its date. For the same date, you can estimate the position of Mars from your 36 points, each of which also has a date, and get the direction to Mars. Oh well--you may need 3-dimensional geometry, because the positions in the Almanac are probably not in ecliptic coordinates (Mars and Earth both move near the plane of the ecliptic) but in declination and right ascension. You can see it will be a big job.

    I do not know how Kepler's calculated all this (it took him years). The position of Mars in the sky (as you can see above) involves BOTH Kepler's first and second laws. My GUESS (just a guess, I may be wrong) is that he assumed the Earth moved in a circle, and that Mars moved in a circle too (he knew the periods of both from long-term observations). He then assumed (like Copernicus) that both moved at constant rates around those circles, and found (as you might--see above) that the positions did not fit. He then MAY have assumed that the position of the Sun was some distance from the center of the circle of Mars, and found in that case that the law of areas could explain most irregularities. FINALLY, he had to give some logical reason for the displacement of the Sun from the center of the orbit, and the most elegant idea he could find was that the orbit was an ellipse and the Sun was at one focus.

    I vaguely recall that the book "The Sleepwalkers" by Arthur Koestler describes those years in Kepler's life, and maybe you will find some clues there. Be warned, though--that is a work of literature by a writer not familiar with math. Maybe you can then write me what you found.

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42.   The Appearance (Phase) of the Moon

    What did the moon look like in Richmond, VA from February 28 to March 8, 2001? For example: full moon, crescent, etc.

REPLY

Dear questioner

    First of all--the moon looks pretty much the same from anywhere on Earth, at least its light-shadow phase-Richmond or Los Angeles, there is no big difference. The direction in which the light-dark division points may differ, because while the moon seen from Australia and here is pretty much the same, the "up" direction in which our heads point is not.

    To find the phases of the moon, you might consult an almanac. Or else, you might look up the Jewish date, using a web site such as

http://www.rtlsoft.com/hebrew/calendar/today.html.


    The Jewish calendar (actually taken from ancient Babylon) has every month beginning with the new moon--the time the moon passes the sun in its trip around the sky (and is not seen). A day or so later it is a very thin crescent setting just after the sun does. In the days that follow that crescent gets wider and wider, and the Moon sets about an hour later every night.

    About a week after new moon you get a half moon, after that it is "gibbous" and in mid month, around the 14th on the Jewish calendar, you get a full moon rising just when the sun sets. To see the moon during the last week of the Jewish month you must be up pretty late, and you will see a half moon or crescent moon in the east lit up from below, from where the sun will rise some hours later.

    On the Jewish Calendar, February 28 is Adar 5, giving a crescent Moon; March 8 is Adar 13, with the moon nearly full. The month of Adar has 29 days. Be warned that you may be a day off--the Jewish calendar sometimes adds a day to make sure certain holidays fall on a proper day of the week. For abolute accuracy, use an almanac.

            Hoping this answers all your questions

Dr. David P. Stern
Goddard Space Flight Center

   

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